Comments on: KDE Brainstorm: 30 days, 700 ideas! http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/ Code is poetry Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:01:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sayak http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1491 Sayak Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:21:22 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1491 @Thomas Zander <blockquote>Its not a job, so that doesn’t work, and developers typically do something they like to work on.</blockquote> Ofcourse, and we at the forums in no way guarantee that a highly voted idea <i>would be implemented</i>. Please note that considered != implemented -- high votes brings the idea to the developers' attention, right? We are grateful to have developers around, and it is and will be their choice regarding what to choose, and what not. Afterall, we all follow the KDE principle: <a href="http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/10/one-who-does-work-decides.html" rel="nofollow">the one who does the work decides</a> :) <blockquote>the forums were started for the SoC and then grew wild.</blockquote> Really? :o What I knew is that KDE project needed an official forum as kde-forum.org had largely become a spam-box. @Thomas Zander

Its not a job, so that doesn’t work, and developers typically do something they like to work on.

Ofcourse, and we at the forums in no way guarantee that a highly voted idea would be implemented. Please note that considered != implemented — high votes brings the idea to the developers’ attention, right?

We are grateful to have developers around, and it is and will be their choice regarding what to choose, and what not. Afterall, we all follow the KDE principle: the one who does the work decides :)

the forums were started for the SoC and then grew wild.

Really? :o
What I knew is that KDE project needed an official forum as kde-forum.org had largely become a spam-box.

]]> By: Thomas Zander http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1490 Thomas Zander Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:59:25 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1490 > Ofcourse, ideas with highest votes have a much > greater probability to be considered. Lets not make this whole thing more important than it really is; the forums were started for the SoC and then grew wild. Apparently there are still people looking at the forums and naturally users using it. I think that it would be unfair to say that volunteer developers will write a new feature *just* because loads of users requested it. Its not a job, so that doesn't work, and developers typically do something they like to work on. (which works out since they are users too). That users add ideas is great, and I'm sure one or two will find their way into KDE at some point. > Ofcourse, ideas with highest votes have a much
> greater probability to be considered.

Lets not make this whole thing more important than it really is; the forums were started for the SoC and then grew wild. Apparently there are still people looking at the forums and naturally users using it.

I think that it would be unfair to say that volunteer developers will write a new feature *just* because loads of users requested it. Its not a job, so that doesn’t work, and developers typically do something they like to work on. (which works out since they are users too).

That users add ideas is great, and I’m sure one or two will find their way into KDE at some point.

]]> By: Thomas Thym http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1489 Thomas Thym Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:15:52 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1489 I'm deeply impressed by the activity of the forum and forum-team. Great work! I’m deeply impressed by the activity of the forum and forum-team. Great work!

]]> By: Sayak http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1488 Sayak Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:55:14 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1488 Ofcourse, ideas with highest votes have a much greater probability to be considered. The voting here is just a way to filter out those suggestions which would be largely disliked. And the policy of an initial approval by staff (for every new submission) snips out rants and complaints that aren't constructive. One of our team members is working on providing a graph of idea submissions over time considering various criteria. It will be announced at the forum when released. Ofcourse, ideas with highest votes have a much greater probability to be considered. The voting here is just a way to filter out those suggestions which would be largely disliked. And the policy of an initial approval by staff (for every new submission) snips out rants and complaints that aren’t constructive.

One of our team members is working on providing a graph of idea submissions over time considering various criteria. It will be announced at the forum when released.

]]> By: Jef Spaleta http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 Jef Spaleta Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:38:33 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1487 What I am most interested in seeing is how well popularity metrics correlate with implementability and developer interest over some reasonable period of time. Statistically speaking, are the ideas with the highest vote totals more likely to get implemented than the ideas with less votes? You should be able to get a picture of that once you have enough ideas categorized as "Done" to do a histogram by vote total. You may also want to do that with the "WontFix" group as well. These sort of metrics will help you tune how developers interact with the idea pile most efficiently. -jef What I am most interested in seeing is how well popularity metrics correlate with implementability and developer interest over some reasonable period of time.

Statistically speaking, are the ideas with the highest vote totals more likely to get implemented than the ideas with less votes? You should be able to get a picture of that once you have enough ideas categorized as “Done” to do a histogram by vote total.
You may also want to do that with the “WontFix” group as well. These sort of metrics will help you tune how developers interact with the idea pile most efficiently.

-jef

]]> By: Sayak http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1486 Sayak Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:46:43 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1486 Posting and editing inside the subforums are restricted. When an idea lands inside the subforums, it is expected to be already tagged and voted (and discussed). In case of exceptions like this, if you wish to have such a thread tagged, I would suggest that you click on the "Report" button for the post and request a re-title there. Posting and editing inside the subforums are restricted. When an idea lands inside the subforums, it is expected to be already tagged and voted (and discussed).

In case of exceptions like this, if you wish to have such a thread tagged, I would suggest that you click on the “Report” button for the post and request a re-title there.

]]> By: patpi http://www.sayakbanerjee.com/2009/04/18/kde-brainstorm-30-days-700-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1485 patpi Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:16:01 +0000 http://blog.sayakbanerjee.com/?p=247#comment-1485 Hi, It seems I can't tag already submitted posts. I would like to tag this one -> http://forum.kde.org/merge-kde4-brainstorm-section-kde-look-org-with-this-forum-t-39064.html Or maybe this request should by send by my to kde-look admins? Hi,

It seems I can’t tag already submitted posts. I would like to tag this one -> http://forum.kde.org/merge-kde4-brainstorm-section-kde-look-org-with-this-forum-t-39064.html
Or maybe this request should by send by my to kde-look admins?

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